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Hoyt · Jan 04, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

Some of these have been touched on, but some general rules that I've found to be successful in trading are:

Keep it simple.
Post a reasonable price, but expect to settle for less.
Consider trades. (25 Winterdays gifts for one black dye is a pretty good offer)
If someone asks you a question about the item, answer them.
Don???t say things like: ???No Noobs??? & ???No Window Shoppers???
Trade on the weekends - there are generally more people playing & buying.
If you have a toon with a name that could be considered rude or obnoxious (like ??? ??? U Suxit Bietch??? or ???Pwned Leet Pimp ) ,don???t use it to trade.

Frau Braten · Jan 04, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54

I never sell anything, and rarely buy anything, as its not worth the time
I do watch the trade channel to see whats being sold

I find it annoying that people that are selling dont post a price, I might even buy from them if they posted a reasonable price and I wanted the item.

I would think that if you post the price in your ad and post it once every 30 secs or so (pull the chat window up, so its as tall as the screen, and repost it when it scrolls off the screen), then that would not be considered spamming.

Also, I have decided that since they added the search button, I will not buy anything that isnt posted in there, as that is what it is for. If more people did this, it would get used.

but remember, I very rarely buy or sell on GW.

As for the people saying "Looking for a good cheap xxx", Ive PM'ed them and given them the specs on the item, along with a reasonable price (usually less than 1K), only to be abused, or ignored, so I dont reply to them anymore.

Most of my good stuff goes to my guild, I just offer it up for free on guild chat

thedork01 · Jan 05, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34

I merch anything unless I think it's worth more than 20k. I'm too lazy to try to sell things.

Howerver, when I do try to sell things, I always use the trade channel, I use ~~ ~~'s to highlight the main focus of my add, and add other information after.

Eg. WTS ~~Req 9 Chaos Axe~~ +15%/al-10, +30 health

Antheus · Jan 05, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

1) Use trade channel exclusively (besides party search). Turn off local chat. People who are serious about buying will look there, not in local.

2) Look at player behaviour. They don't stand around window shopping. They zone in and buy. Logical conclusion is, that WTS is waste of time. WTB is what makes money. Those are the ones you need to catch. In about 5 seconds, before full-time traders get to them.

3) Don't bother selling non-max stuff. From time to time someone will want one, but it's not cost effective

4) Markets are at an all time low. Even mods are getting slow to sell.

5) Supply exceeds demand in LA and Kamadahn. You'll usually have less than 30 seconds to close the deal before someone beats you. This is extremly true for most mods.

6) If you do need to spam, say what you're selling clearly. WTS: Strength and honor, 15^50, 3k. If you don't specify the price, it means you want to haggle, or that you don't know what it's worth. You'll get scavengers looking to underbuy it, or people won't bother to even contact you.

7) Keep a full inventory of items to sell. Parallel aproach is much better than trying to sell one item after another.

=HT=Ingram · Jan 05, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14

The biggest advantage of the new trade search window is that its cross multiple districts... So you can sit in LA D1 (the traditional Trade district) and post up a trade message in P and basically sit back and wait. Post a occasional message in trade channel and it will help advertise your location in the district.

As to the spam filter, the game client will tell you when you are spamming. There are way around it, but you get the idea when you see it.

What little business I have done of late has been 100% exclusive on the Trade search window. All chat and Trade chat have been turned off for months now. I rely exclusively on my Alliance chat, guild chat, whispers, and TeamSpeak now for people to play with. Its unfortunate it came to that, but it did. So now that this new feature is here the more use it gets the less spam will happen and the happier everyone will be in the end.

The only thing that will make it better is the Auction House service in the guild hall so that you can leave your wares for sell and come back later to collect your profits or recollect your wares. Unfortunately that particular model was challenged in court By Blizzard and not allowed in GW under an agreement between the two. So Anet needs to develop a new and unique way to handle this functionality. the Trade party search was a good first step in that direction... I'm sure more will come later.

gojensen · Jan 05, 2007, 09:50 AM // 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

Auction House service in the guild hall so that you can leave your wares for sell and come back later to collect your profits or recollect your wares. Unfortunately that particular model was challenged in court By Blizzard and not allowed in GW under an agreement between the two.

For real? Any sources to verify this? Because it just sucks

and is a good example of how wrong the US patent system has become... :-/

Sli Ander · Jan 05, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Here's one people missed : Make sure your status in the Friends menu is set to online. It's really annoying to try and sell somebody something they advertise they want, or to buy from someone when I can't whisper them for details(such as if they still want it)
And I'll have to second the motion on stating a price. If you don't state a price on something I know is valuable, I have to assume you don't know what it's worth(i.e. I can get it cheap and resell it, or you'll try to overcharge despite me giving a good price rather than lowballing)

but that's just my two cents

/edit and the rule(imo) for all chat: if its already being spammed so fast you're eyes bleed, ignore using it and it will make you look more professional. If you are in a situation where you feel you need to put something into all chat, do it sparingly and none too often. Occasionally you will get a buyer this way if they notice something you're selling(which they hadn't planned on buying, but since you have it available...) but its not as consistent/surefire/etc as the party menu or trade channel.

My Green Storage · Jan 05, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11

The way I always sell is this:

Selling: 15^50(4k), e5^50(3k), Ghial's Staff(20k), Exuro's Will(20k) so on and so forth (9/10 times I sell greens)

As you see I don't draw attention to my self, if people are wanting to buy it, they will. Nor do I spam it hard. When i first get to the district I may do it a couple times in 10-15 seconds, after that I do it once every 10 - 20 seconds.

When I see those hard core spammers, I think to my self: If you have to spam it that much, it's a piece of junk no one wants. Those triple/quadruple spammers

Setting a reasonable price will get people interested as well.

***WTS*** Big sweet ass purple sword +23 health only 79k!!!!!!!
and then 5 minutes later i see the same person asking for 50 .. and then 10 minutes later it's 20k.

I also leave districts that seem like the same 5 things are being sold and spammed. I hate those people .. no one is talking, the chat window scroll is fine and yet they still triple/quadruple spam it EVEN THOUGH NO ONE IS TALKING .. shut up

Jan 04, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55	#21
Hoyt Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: VA,USA...for now.	General Trading Some of these have been touched on, but some general rules that I've found to be successful in trading are: Keep it simple. Post a reasonable price, but expect to settle for less. Consider trades. (25 Winterdays gifts for one black dye is a pretty good offer) If someone asks you a question about the item, answer them. Don???t say things like: ???No Noobs??? & ???No Window Shoppers??? Trade on the weekends - there are generally more people playing & buying. If you have a toon with a name that could be considered rude or obnoxious (like ??? ??? U Suxit Bietch??? or ???Pwned Leet Pimp ) ,don???t use it to trade.

Jan 05, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55	#27
Sli Ander Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls Guild: Liberators of Agony Profession: Mo/R	Here's one people missed : Make sure your status in the Friends menu is set to online. It's really annoying to try and sell somebody something they advertise they want, or to buy from someone when I can't whisper them for details(such as if they still want it) And I'll have to second the motion on stating a price. If you don't state a price on something I know is valuable, I have to assume you don't know what it's worth(i.e. I can get it cheap and resell it, or you'll try to overcharge despite me giving a good price rather than lowballing) but that's just my two cents /edit and the rule(imo) for all chat: if its already being spammed so fast you're eyes bleed, ignore using it and it will make you look more professional. If you are in a situation where you feel you need to put something into all chat, do it sparingly and none too often. Occasionally you will get a buyer this way if they notice something you're selling(which they hadn't planned on buying, but since you have it available...) but its not as consistent/surefire/etc as the party menu or trade channel. Last edited by Sli Ander; Jan 05, 2007 at 10:58 AM // 10:58..

Jan 04, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54	#22
Frau Braten Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006	I never sell anything, and rarely buy anything, as its not worth the time I do watch the trade channel to see whats being sold I find it annoying that people that are selling dont post a price, I might even buy from them if they posted a reasonable price and I wanted the item. I would think that if you post the price in your ad and post it once every 30 secs or so (pull the chat window up, so its as tall as the screen, and repost it when it scrolls off the screen), then that would not be considered spamming. Also, I have decided that since they added the search button, I will not buy anything that isnt posted in there, as that is what it is for. If more people did this, it would get used. but remember, I very rarely buy or sell on GW. As for the people saying "Looking for a good cheap xxx", Ive PM'ed them and given them the specs on the item, along with a reasonable price (usually less than 1K), only to be abused, or ignored, so I dont reply to them anymore. Most of my good stuff goes to my guild, I just offer it up for free on guild chat

Jan 05, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34	#23
thedork01 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: All over the place Guild: Broken Circle Profession: E/Me	I merch anything unless I think it's worth more than 20k. I'm too lazy to try to sell things. Howerver, when I do try to sell things, I always use the trade channel, I use ~~ ~~'s to highlight the main focus of my add, and add other information after. Eg. WTS ~~Req 9 Chaos Axe~~ +15%/al-10, +30 health

Jan 05, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49	#24
Antheus Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006	1) Use trade channel exclusively (besides party search). Turn off local chat. People who are serious about buying will look there, not in local. 2) Look at player behaviour. They don't stand around window shopping. They zone in and buy. Logical conclusion is, that WTS is waste of time. WTB is what makes money. Those are the ones you need to catch. In about 5 seconds, before full-time traders get to them. 3) Don't bother selling non-max stuff. From time to time someone will want one, but it's not cost effective 4) Markets are at an all time low. Even mods are getting slow to sell. 5) Supply exceeds demand in LA and Kamadahn. You'll usually have less than 30 seconds to close the deal before someone beats you. This is extremly true for most mods. 6) If you do need to spam, say what you're selling clearly. WTS: Strength and honor, 15^50, 3k. If you don't specify the price, it means you want to haggle, or that you don't know what it's worth. You'll get scavengers looking to underbuy it, or people won't bother to even contact you. 7) Keep a full inventory of items to sell. Parallel aproach is much better than trying to sell one item after another.

Jan 05, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14	#25
=HT=Ingram Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Anchorage Alaska Guild: Haz Team [HT] Profession: R/W	The biggest advantage of the new trade search window is that its cross multiple districts... So you can sit in LA D1 (the traditional Trade district) and post up a trade message in P and basically sit back and wait. Post a occasional message in trade channel and it will help advertise your location in the district. As to the spam filter, the game client will tell you when you are spamming. There are way around it, but you get the idea when you see it. What little business I have done of late has been 100% exclusive on the Trade search window. All chat and Trade chat have been turned off for months now. I rely exclusively on my Alliance chat, guild chat, whispers, and TeamSpeak now for people to play with. Its unfortunate it came to that, but it did. So now that this new feature is here the more use it gets the less spam will happen and the happier everyone will be in the end. The only thing that will make it better is the Auction House service in the guild hall so that you can leave your wares for sell and come back later to collect your profits or recollect your wares. Unfortunately that particular model was challenged in court By Blizzard and not allowed in GW under an agreement between the two. So Anet needs to develop a new and unique way to handle this functionality. the Trade party search was a good first step in that direction... I'm sure more will come later.

Jan 05, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11	#28
My Green Storage Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Guild: My Blue Storage Profession: N/	The way I always sell is this: Selling: 15^50(4k), e5^50(3k), Ghial's Staff(20k), Exuro's Will(20k) so on and so forth (9/10 times I sell greens) As you see I don't draw attention to my self, if people are wanting to buy it, they will. Nor do I spam it hard. When i first get to the district I may do it a couple times in 10-15 seconds, after that I do it once every 10 - 20 seconds. When I see those hard core spammers, I think to my self: If you have to spam it that much, it's a piece of junk no one wants. Those triple/quadruple spammers Setting a reasonable price will get people interested as well. *WTS* Big sweet ass purple sword +23 health only 79k!!!!!!! and then 5 minutes later i see the same person asking for 50 .. and then 10 minutes later it's 20k. I also leave districts that seem like the same 5 things are being sold and spammed. I hate those people .. no one is talking, the chat window scroll is fine and yet they still triple/quadruple spam it EVEN THOUGH NO ONE IS TALKING .. shut up